Healing helps pancreatic cancer

>> it was the most unbearable pain i had ever experienced. >> gordon: cancer way going to kill him, unless he did it first. >> i would stick a gun in my mouth or put it to my temple.

>> gordon: see how three mysterious exchanges changed his thinking, on today's "700 club interactive." >>> welcome to the show. would you ever home-school your kids? over the past decade,

we've seen a 61% increase in the number of american children who are home-schooled. >> terry: kirk cameron and his wife, chelsea, home-school their six children. in a conversation, cameron

shares why it works for his family. >> we were joking before about how we have enough kids to field a full basketball game, five on five. >> reporter: so you home-school?

>> yeah. >> reporter: how is that going? >> we've been home-schooling our kids for about six or seven years. we prefer the term "life-schooling."

you can talk with your kids -- if you're kids are involved in biology, if they're involved in architecture, if they're involved in engineering, you can go down to the subway and you can see these things.

the world, as they say, becomes your school room. >> reporter: yeah. >> they're in the constant learning mode. i just read a quote from thomas jefferson, where he said, i prefer dangerous freedom to comfortable

flavoring. clearly it is a controversial statement he made, but in a different context. plus the freedom to dangerously craft your own children's education, so that they can be free to

learn the things that you know are important for them to learn, not be locked into a system that lonely will show them what, say, a certain group of people want them to hear. i think home education is

just such a fantastic thing, but it takes a lot of guts and courage to do it. i just can't compete, with my half hour a day, maybe a saturday or sunday morning in church, with six full days of my kids

being taught by somebody else things that i may or may not agree with, or may or may not undermine everything i want them to know. the family is like the d.n.a. it is the building block.

it contains all of the information to build the whole organism. and families are built around relationship, right? built around, i trust you. you're for me, and i'm for you.

you're here to open the door and provide opportunities, and i'm here to help you and you're here to help me. when we're home-educating our kids, there is so much time spent together -- sometimes it will drive

you nuts -- but the value of the relationship is priceless. you can't replace it because you can't find time anywhere else. there is no other dimension where you can import more time.

the clock is ticking and here it is. >> gordon: that's a wonderful statement, there is no other dimension where you can import more time. what do you think about home-schooling?

>> terry: i'm a big fan. >> gordon: i'm a fan, but i didn't have the courage to do it. >> terry: i did it, partially. [laughter] >> terry: partially. i think one of the

difficult challenges of it is that in the things that you are gifted in or bent towards, there are lots of resources out there for that. but if you're not --, like, i'm not a math person, and then you need

to supplement that with someone who is. there are a lot of shared classes going on. and one of my daughters was finishing up high school, and she only had a couple of credits she needed left, and we didn't

want to pay for the whole year for that, so we sent her to a school where she can take just the classes they needed. it was done on a home-school-type of basis. i love it. i agree with kirk cameron

completely in all that he says. at a certain point, you're sending your child off pretty early on, really, where they're with someone else more hours of the day than with you. >> gordon: and what are

they learning? >> terry: exactly. >> gordon: and if you've going to the public school system, or even private school, don't let your schooling interfere with your education. i've learned education is

a life-long process. the more informed you are, the better you are. >> terry: well, for the first time in centuries, what's believed to be the tomb of jesus has been uncovered in the church of the holy sepulchre.

>> gordon: clys chris mitchell takes us to the heart of the old city where a major restoration is under way inside a 4th century church. >> chris: this national geographic video shows workmen uncovering the

marble slab over the tomb on october 26th. as the video says, the modest tomb has never before been photographed. no drawings exist. it reported conservationalists were surprised to find

something their instruments didn't detect: a layer of debris beneath the marble cover. and then underneath the bedebris, they found another marble slab with a cross carved into its surface. queen helena came here to

discover the area where the tomb was buried. the historian usibius said he did it to cover the tomb where jesus was buried. >>> the examination of the tomb is part of the restoration part.

they are preparing the edicule, which means little house. the last repair work done on the edicule took place over 200 years ago. this professor leads the restoration, and told cbn news er earlier this year

about the project. >> we will remove the marble slabs, the stone slabs. we will inject grout to modernize the complex structure. that means that we develop a unified structure, that

all of the layers will behave structurally as one. and after returning with new composite and reforming the mortars, we will re-adjust the slabs with titanium. >> chris: for the

workers, it is more than a job. this man is a greek civil engineer. >> i'm very excited. i'm a christian orthodox, and i'm working in greece. and moments like this -- this is specialized work,

very specialized work. i don't believe that i can go do something bigger than this. >> each one of us in front of the holy tomb sees the values of the holy tomb. and the holy tomb is the most sacred place in the

world. it gives the message of the resurrection. >> chris: the restoration should be completed some time next year. chris mitchell, cbn news, the church of the holy

sepulchre, jerusalem. >> gordon: that was a fascinating look into the church of the holy sepulchre. if you ever get to jerusalem, i encourage you to go there. it is truly awe-inspiring,

with the open roof above, the sun coming down. this is one where the bizantines got it right, where they did find and did build a church on top of the place where jesus was buried. >> terry: it is very

likely that is what would have happened over the early years of the church, that there would have been some edifice. >> gordon: and i think it is amazing that in uncovering it they found a cross chiseled into it.

>> terry: amazing. >> gordon: well, pastors are getting their messages across in unusual ways. last week we told you about a pastor who preached his sermon while getting a tat toot. >> terrytattoo.

>> terry: in this pastor had to be pretty healthy to pull this off. wait until you see what he did to get his congregation's attention. >> two things are given in the text that we should, as runners, think about

eliminating or subtracting from our lives so we can run better. they are weights that get in the way, and sin that easily entangles. i don't know if it is easy just to describe this, so i thought maybe we could

give a picture of it. i put names to these weights. this one says schedule. this one says work. this one just says stuff. and on my right foot, it just says financial. what i'm not saying is

don't go to work tomorrow. what i am saying is no longer allowing work and allowing our social media to control our lives so that we can make some progress in our walks with jesus. so we can do what god

wants us to do, and we won't be held back from the forward progress that he has been dreaming about for us. [applause] >> since the beginning of the earth. >> gordon: well, that

was inventive. that is taking sermon ill trietionz-inillustrations to a whole other level. >> terry: i feel out of breath watching it. >> gordon: have you ever tried one of those desks that has that?

>> terry: i have not tried a desk that has i tried running on a treadmill -- >> gordon: you didn't like it, i can tell. >> terry: it's okay, but it is kind of boring. it is better to walk

around the block. how about you? >> gordon: i tried one one time and i gave up because i couldn't type. >> terry: how do you read? >> gordon: it is tough to read and tough to type.

can you talk, but the listener has to bear with you because you run out of breath. >> terry: and after you're done reading the e-mail and done typing on the computer, do you get on the treadmill at any

point borough the day? >> gordon: do you at least walk around the neighborhood. keep in mind 10,000 steps a day, tha that's the key. >> terry: coming up, a cancer patient is told he has the, quote,"most

lethal diagnosis anyone can have." >> i asked the doctor, how long do i have, and he told me four months. >> terry: find out how he survived thanks to three mysterious visitations.

plus, we're going to be >> gordon: michael jackson, he had cancer and he had four months to live. and it was stage four pancreatic cancer. before long, mike made a decision: he wasn't going

to let the tumor kill him. he was going to do it himself. >> to be 44 years old and you can't do anything for yourself. you can't take a bath. you can't feed yourself. you can't bathe yourself.

you just couldn't do it no more. the next thing was a loaded .9-millimeter handgun that nobody knew i had. i'm trying to figure out, do i put it in my mouth or put it to my temple.

>> reporter: he was a healthy 44-year-old until the day he felt a sharp pain in his side. >> really it felt like somebody was stabbing me. it was the most unbearable pain i had ever >> reporter: his wife,

leanna, drove him to the emergency room that same day. after 13 hours in the e.r., mike received a diagnosis. >> this is the pancreas in here. >> and they told me i have

stage four pancreatic cancer. and i asked the doctor, how long do i have, and he >> unfortunately, that is one of the most lethal diagnosises anybody could have. >> i took a deep breath.

i looked at leanna, and she was sitting at the foot of my bed, and her face is trembling. >> i really don't know what i thought because my thoughts were all over the place. i thought about my

daughter. i thought about myself. you know. >> i walk in the bathroom, and i just scream. and i'm mad. and something miraculous happens while i'm in this bathroom.

god speaks to me. and he says, you will live and not die. >> reporter: three days after his diagnosis, mike started treatment. >> whoa, you know, chemo was every 14 days, so 51 hours.

my body is taking a beating. i'm weak. i can't walk. i can't do anything for myself. >> reporter: after several months of chemo, mike began to feel intense

fear and rarely left home. >> because all i could hear was four months, four months, four months. and i'm counting the days. i guess you could say the devil was playing with my mind. god doesn't love you and

you're going to die. you're going to die in 15 days. and i said to myself, if i'm going to die in 15 days, let's do this. >> reporter: mike drove to a local river with a loaded .9-millimeter in

hand, and began thinking about his family. >> in the long run i'm apologizing to leanna and my daughter because i told them i would fight, but i just couldn't do it anymore. i just couldn't take the

beating from chemo. >> reporter: then something stopped him from pulling the trigger. >> my daughter. my daughter's face appeared in front of me. she was talking to me. and i was telling her, i'm

sorry, that i can't do it no more. i can't do it. i know i promised you i would be here, but i can't do it. i'm sorry. and she was, like, daddy, please come home.

and i kept telling her no. and she kept telling me to come home. she wouldn't leave. so as long as my daughter was standing in front of me, i couldn't pull the trigger. i put the gun down.

and i came home. when i walked in the door, my daughter ran up to me and said, thank you, daddy, for coming home. >> reporter: from that day forward, mike was committed to trusting god and beating the odds.

>> that day changed me. i said, i'm going to do this, i'm going to fight. >> he just seemed more involved in his recovery. you know, in his treatment, he was in it now. >> reporter: mike passed

the four-month mark, and m.r.i.s revealed the tumors had stop growing, but he still required chemo. after two years of treatment, he asked his doctor for a break. >> i said, you either give

me a break or i'm going to take a break. my body is tired. so the break is coming to an end. it's september 2013. i don't know what it is with me and god and bathrooms, but i'm

standing up in the bath and i was shaving my chest on a monday morning, getting ready for cheem mow. chemo, and god speaks to me again. this time i don't look

around because i know who it is. and i chuckle to myself. and he says to me, by my stripes you are healed. you don't need anymore >> reporter: mike told his doctor that he was healed.

and the doctor says to me, i'll make a deal with you. i'll scan your body. if i find cancer, you get back in chemo. and i said, okay, deal. they scanned my body. they can't find any >> what happened to mike

is absolutely outside the ordinary. it is not usual for somebody with metastatic pancreatic cancer to be, you know, to be doing as well as he has been doing, if you consider that it has been over five years.

>> reporter: mike is still cancer-free, and has become one of only 2% who survive stage 4 pancreatic >> i'm not supposed to be doctors say i'm not supposed to be here, but i serve a god that loves me. he says i'm supposed to be

>> gordon: and you serve a god who loves you, who says you're supposed to be you're his idea. he made you. the bible says we're fear fearfully and wonderfully made. and it also says he has

created us for good things. before he even laid the foundation of the world, he created good things for you and me to walk into. now, the enemy comes along and he wants to sow doubt into that.

and he wants to sow fear. he comes to rob and steal and kill and destroy. he wants to do all of those things. but all we have to do is look to jesus. and whether he shows up in your bathroom or shows up

right now, it doesn't matter because you know that by his stripes you were healed. and we're going to pray for you. and i believe faith is an act. you act your faith.

so in an act of faith, if you need healing, just lay your hand on that area of the body that needs a touch. and we're going to agree. and the bible says when two or more agree touching anything, it shall be done

for them by my father in heaven. these are the words of you can trust him. so lay your hand on that area of the body that needs healing. terry and i are going to agree.

you're going to touch and we're going to agree, and that wonderful verse, it shall be done -- let's just hold on to that and believe and pray. lord, we just lift the needs, and as people are reaching out and touching,

laying hands on that area of the body that needs healing, we join in with them and we agree with them. and together we say out loud to it, be healed and be made whole. in the name of jesus, by

the stripes of jesus, i am it is healed now. in his name. there is someone, you've got a painful right shoulder, and there has been a tear not just in the tendon, but also in the muscle.

god is able to restore it. what you couldn't do before, do now. begin to move that right shoulder, and realize you have been touched and you have be be been healed right now. terry?

>> terry: there is someone else, you have, like, lesions in your throat, not just in the back of your throat but down your throat. it is so painful for you not just to swallow, but to eat is almost

impossible. god is healing that condition for you right now, gone in jesus' name. >> gordon: there is a man named george, and you have trouble processing food, and it is painful for you to eat.

and god is just restoring your entire digestive system. it no longer is going to war against itself. it is going to be able to process food normally, the way god intended. just receive that now for

he knows you by name. just receive healing all the way through your intestines. that pain just left you now, in jesus' name. someone else, you have an issue with mental fo fog fogginess, and god is

clearing that up. your ability to stay focused and to recall details is back in jesus' name. >> gordon: lord, we thank you. we receive it now in jesus' name.

if you've be healed, all you have to do is call us and let us know. we want to let others know about what god is doing in the world today. 1-800-700-7000. if you need prayer, we're here 24 hours a day, seven

days a week. all you have to do is pick up the phone and call. we believe in prevailing prayer, and we want to pray for you. >> terry: still ahead, meet a couple who loves to give.

>> we just experimented, let's see what happens when we go from tithing net to gross. >> terry: find out what happened to their income that year, after this. >> gordon: andrew and bridget have seen their

income grow over the past few years, and now they want to share their secret with you. >> reporter: andrew and his wife, bridget, love to >> there are specific laws that god requires of us. 10% in our household is a

regular thing. >> giving is the most fun time of the month. i get to sit down and say, yes, who am i going to give this to? >> reporter: andrew is a successful business manager who started

tithing when he was 21. >> i just experimented, and my income doubled that i never forgot that. >> reporter: for bridget, it wasn't until she married andrew in 2009 that she made tithing a prierd.

priority. she said it didn't take long for her to realize what she had been missing. >> god has blessed us so immensely, and we should be good stewards. >> reporter: in addition to giving at their church,

the reillys are cbn partners. >> we never think twice about where our dollars are going when we give to cbn. whether it is a hurricane or somebody who needs a surgery in another

country. we know to do that on our own, we're not going to be as effective. and to see cbn, the amount of work, on the scale that they do, is just radical. >> reporter: their favorite cbn ministry is

"superbook." andrew watched the classic "superbook" as a child, and he remembers how it strengthened his faith as a young child. >> i would love to see it in every language and keep the outreach going across

the world. >> joy and gizmo has helped the kids understand and recognize who they are and what the lord says about them. >> reporter: the reillys give at the chairman's circle level.

they challenge everyone to give more and see god bless you beyond measure. >> god expects you to be a good steward with your money, that he can trust you to continue pouring back out what he has given to you.

because it isn't for you. >> giving is the time when money leaving the account actually feels good. it is a great reward and a great feeling and a great privilege. >> gordon: it is a great feeling to be part of

saying, i want to preach the gospel around the i want to help people around the world. if that's you, join with us. join "the 700 club." 1-800-700-7000 is the number.

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generously will also reap generously." >> terry: and we have something special for you to hear as we go, like you've never heard it before. *